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Re: [情報] 關於MJ的學術研討會

看板KingofPop (麥可傑克森 - Michael Jackson)作者ChesterB (很難想)時間15年前 (2010/10/04 03:05)推噓8(8推 0噓 2→)

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Part I It was excellent. There was a panel discussion with Ed Eckstein, Siedah Garrett, Ricky Lawson, Greg Phillinganes, and Harry Weinger. A nice sized audience (200 ppl maybe?) This of course, was the paid event, not free like the rest of the weekend's events that I unfortunately could not attend. So it was a nice sized-crowd. 約兩百人參與的研討會 So, the night of course was spent discussing Michael's music, but also, there were a whole lot of funny MJ stories. 討論MJ的音樂但也有很多MJ的有趣故事 The night started with Ed Eckstein. I must admit things started out a bit slow (he had his whole speech written and was reading it to us). But he told us about how his “bromance” with MJ started when he was away at college and heard the Jackson 5 for the first time on the radio. He later began to work with Quincy Jones in 1974, and of course, ended up meeting and working with Michael. 第一個講者是Ed Eckstein 必須承認一開頭進度很緩慢他寫了講稿照著念但他告訴我們他和MJ的兄弟情誼是怎麼建立的他在大學時第一次在廣播上聽到J5的歌之後他從1974 年開始跟Quency Jones工作最後他見到了MJ和與她工作 He showed a picture of himself and a young teenaged MJ and went on to talk about some general stuff...How Michael was a genius, etc. He talked about how the Jackson 5 were pretty much the Black Beetles with all the hysteria they were causing everywhere they went. This set the tone for the night. Then he introduced Harry Weinger. This is when things started to pick up because Harry had music for us, lol. 他展示了他和青年時期的MJ 他講了一些很一般的東西 MJ是個天才等等等他講到J5基本上是黑人版的披頭四他們到哪裡都造成一股瘋狂熱潮然後他介紹了Harry Winger 而一切開始步上軌道 Harry帶了音樂來 Harry Weinger had some amazing recordings of Baby MJ to share with us. He focused on Michael's musical evolution, and how Michael was truly a child prodegy. He discussed the evolution of Jackson 5 songs back when the boys were at Motown. Harry有很多不可思議小MJ的錄音他著重於麥可在音樂上的演化還有MJ是怎樣的神童他討論了J5從Motown開始一路來歌曲的演進 He played the classic “The Love You Save” for us, and then discussed how the song came to be. Apparently, the song started off as “Guess Who’s Making Whoopy with Your Girlfriend” (which I could have sworn was the original of “Mama’s Pearl" ...but, not according to Harry. I guess the musical track for GWMWWYG eventually was reused and a new song was written for it, Mama's Pearl). But anyway, he says the song’s title was too long and had to be reworked. It evolved into another version of “The Love You Save”, which he played for us. It was so fascinating to hear this stuff! You could hear “The Love You Save” in development…It was there, but not quite there yet. Some of the lyrics were the same, but the phrasing and the way Michael was singing it was different. Interesting stuff, getting to hear the steps that were taken to reach the final version. He told us how their were plenty of Jackson 5 songs that never saw the light of day, as well as recordings of some of their biggest hits in the developmental phases. What was interesting though, is how he showed us how their sound began to change (as MJ started getting older and using more input). He started playing other things, songs he described as the "bridge" between J5 Motown-esque songs, and Jacksons era songs. Songs that you could hear early Motown influence, but was moving in the direction of later Jackson songs as they worked to change their sound. 他放了經典的The Love you save然後告訴我們這首歌是怎麼形成的很顯然這首歌一開始是根據Guess Who’s Making Whoopy with Your Girlfriend 但是這首歌名實在太長了所以必須重新弄過所以就變成另一個版本的The Love you save 他也撥給我們聽了你可以聽見這首歌正有雛形就快完成但還不到最終的樣子有些歌詞是一樣的但是很多橋段還有麥可唱的方式是不一樣的聽這些一路來的版本到最後版很有趣他告訴我們有很多 J5的歌曲一直都沒被發行包括這些唱銷歌曲的雛型版更有趣的事他向我們展示J5的音樂怎樣開始轉變(隨著MJ長大他參與了更多) 他也放了很多音樂展現了從Motown時期的MJ 到最後MJ單飛時期的音樂的過渡時期那些歌你可以聽到早期Motwon的影子但你也可以聽到後來MJ歌曲的雛形 One incredible thing he shared with us is how they have recordings over at Motown of Michael singing different takes of songs and how on each one, he is in perfect harmony with himself. He said listening through these old recordings, they played them all together, and Michael consistently remained in the same key, same inflictions of his voice...And he was 10-11 years old. So it was evident at that early age, he already had an incredible ear for music, and incredible control over his vocals. 另一個他告訴我們很厲害的事情是當他們在錄Motwon的歌曲時麥可會同一首歌唱很多次但每一次他唱出的曲調總是一樣的如果把所有不同次唱的錄音同時播放麥可永遠都是音都一樣的準而當時他只有10-11歲這些都是他在很小的時候就已經有對音樂很厲害的耳朵還有對他聲音就已經非常有掌控力的證據 Weinger gave us some really special treats with these old recordings he played for us. One was an absolutely beautiful acapella of Michael singing "Never Can Say Goodbye." Talk about the voice of an angel...That was an understatement. The audience was in awe just listening to him. His voice so clear, beautiful, so controled. And that fantastic ad-libbing at the end, when he was so young. 他還放了一個Never Can Say Goodbye的清唱版說是天使之音都還不足以形容聽眾聽了全部都傻眼了他的聲音非常清澈美麗和有掌控力最後的即興發揮實在太棒了而他那時還如此年紀小 Another treat...Weinger discussed how of course, Young Michael is always described as being so incredibly mature. But every now and then, the 11 year old that he was would creep out. So he plays us this clip of Michael singing a cover of Diana Ross' song, "He's My Sunny Boy." The lyrics were changed to "I'm Your Sunny Boy" though. Michael is singing, so professional and all. And then at the end, singing, "I'll be your sunny boy baby" or something along those lines, he just starts cracking up laughing all of a sudden. It was SO f-reakin' adorable. The sound of BB MJ's voice laughing throughout the auditorium. Priceless. 還有他也描述了小MJ是怎樣的成熟一個十一歲的小孩的樣子還是時不時會跑出來他放了一段麥可唱Diana Ross的歌He's My sunny boy 歌詞被改成I am your Sunny Boy 麥可非常職業的唱著但在最後的時候他唱到I'll be your sunny boy baby 他就開始突然笑了出來聽到小MJ的笑聲迴響在整個會議廳無價 Then Harry played some audio of live Jackson 5 performances for us (being recorded to make a J5 Live album). Only thing is, this particular recording had some issues, lol. The Jackson 5 were singing...The Love You Save (I think? don't quote me...I'm forgetting now, lol). Anyway, something is wrong with the amplifier. You hear the J5 singing, you hear the crowd screaming. They get to the end of the song, and BB MJ is not too thrilled about the jacked-up amplifier. All of a sudden, you hear BB MJ going, "I don't know what's wrong with this amplifier. Do you know what's wrong with it? Do you know." LOL! 他也放了J5的現場演出不過錄音時有一些問題 J5正在唱歌而擴音器有問題你可以聽到 J5在唱歌觀眾在尖叫他們唱完了整首歌小MJ顯然對擴音器不太滿意突然你聽見小MJ說我不知道擴音器出了甚麼問題你們知道怎麼了嗎? 你們知道嗎???? He was so serious. Something onstage was sounding off to him, and he wanted it fixed! Harry said it reminded him of MJ in TII, trying to make sure everything was sounding right. Apparently the man was a perfectionist and had a very keen ear since he was a child. 他非常嚴肅他顯然聽出音響不太對而他想要有人去修正他 Harry說這讓他想起了在TII 中的MJ 他要確定所有東西聽起來都是對的這個人從小時後就是個完美主義者而且他有一對很靈的耳朵 Next, we got some fun stories about J5 performances. Of course, they drove girls crazy. BB MJ was already a ladies' man, and already knew how to work an audience. There was a huge, but fake, diamond ring that Michael was given to wear onstage during performances. A little trick he learned onstage was how to make the ring catch light in just the right way to reflect on someone in the audience. So what he used to do was scan the crowd, and single out a girl. He'd make eye contact with her, hold out his hand, and "flash" the ring at her. Drove girls crazy, lol. So even at that young age, he was already trying to connect personally to the audience...Putting extra things into the performance. The little flirt, lol. 然後他們講了J5表演時有趣的故事當然他們讓女孩們都瘋狂了小MJ已經很知道怎麼去挑撥觀眾了麥可上台時手上會帶一個超大但是假的鑽戒而他研究出一個方法能讓他在台上時利用舞台上的光反射到觀眾所以他常會做的是掃過群眾選出其中一個女孩他會看著她然後用戒指反射光芒給她那些女孩們都瘋了即使在他很小的時候他已經知道怎麼跟觀眾一對一的互動小調戲一下 Then there were times of course, when the girls in the audience would rush the stage. At one concert, Berry Gordy and Diana Ross were in the audience and saw the stampeded coming. So they took off. Who else took off? Jermaine. Dropped his guitar and ran for his life. BB MJ was upset about that. In an interview (I forgot what magazine Harry said it was for), BB MJ said something like, "It's a shame we can't perform the songs the way we want to. Jermaine had to drop his guitar." (*cough* sounds like he was calling Jermaine a punk *cough*). Kidding, lol. But it was funny. 也有時後歌迷整個暴動衝上台有一場演唱會Berry Gordy和Diana Ross在觀眾席他們就看到了這一幕他們就跑走了還有誰也跑走了?Jermaine 他丟下他的吉他逃命去了小MJ 對於這些很不開心在一個訪問中小MJ說不能照我們想要的方式表演我們的歌實在太遺憾了 Jermaine必須丟了他的吉他 Ok, this is getting long. So I'm going to break up my posts. I'm not anywhere near finished yet though, lol. -- In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. In a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe. ~~~~By Michael Jackson -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 173.59.231.40