Re: [情報] 又賣0.99元了...

看板LadyGaga作者 (1)時間14年前 (2011/05/27 14:19), 編輯推噓24(24040)
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※ 引述《herohoney (http://ppt.cc/eJRa 點!!)》之銘言: : http://twitter.com/#!/amazonmp3/status/73650270021750784 : http://ppt.cc/5tq1 (amazon網站) : 還沒買專輯的人快去買吧...XDD : 看來銷量又要往上衝了 : 只是到時候會有人講話就是了@"@ 看來國外已經有人在連署陳情了,寫這篇陳情文的人認為 Amazon以0.99美金的價格幫助GAGA銷售專輯是CHEATING,希望Billboard 不要把這個promotion算進專輯銷量內 (之前BestBuy 買一支智慧型手機就送一張專輯的促銷已經不被算進Billboard 200內了) 節錄重點: 這種「作弊」行為不能算進銷量內,他們覺得這種手段讓BTW可以很容易的破百萬銷售, 假使一萬個小怪獸各買100張專輯,百萬銷售根本就是垂手可得 (老實說我覺得這個論點 太好笑了XDDD)。這種行為太不公平了,之前破百萬的歌手都是以原價或是不會太誇張的 促銷價格賣破百萬。 以下是信件全文 Dear Billboard, 1,000,000 1st week sales of GaGa (with the $0.99 deal) are NOT the equivalent of an artist 10 years ago with 1,000,000 sales. At this rate, Gaga will outsell Celine Dion, Madonna, Mariah Carey in 10 years if she makes deals like these. Michael Jackson has rolled around in his grave, because his TOP selling album status may be ruined by your ignorant, silly and inappropriate policy. You have to take into consideration that when artists like The Beatles, Whitney Houston, Eminem, Britney Spears, Usher, Shania Twain, Taylor Swift, 50 Cent, Norah Jones.. and all of the other artists who have has first week impacts over over 1,000,000 unit sales to consumers that there was NO SPECIAL DISCOUNTED PROMOTION for them. It's almost as if Gaga's taking advantage of the rules that have been set by the powers-that-be. This is why you have a lot of angry fans on your hands, especially Britney Spears & Eminem fans. You have someone who made a thunderous boom onto the music scene and left her mark with one of the highest debuts ever. That title is in danger of being stripped or lessoned because for two days (or even more) Amazon decided to virtually give the album away. In a sense it is completely not fair. At the end of the day selling a brand new album at 99 cents means fans can afford to buy 100 copies for just under 100 bucks. IMAGINE 10,000 GAGA FANS BUYS 100 COPIES EACH ==> 1,000,000 COPIES ALREADY That basically gives her the #1 spot without her even trying to get it. Where is the pride in that? f**king PATHETIC! Almost ANY artist with a brand new album selling at 99 cents could accomplish massive first week sales and a debut number one. Its basically CHEATING. The richest artist of the year (like GaGa) selling an album for $0.99 is the same as an artist who started from scratch and can not afford all these advertisments and plays things fair and sells an album for, let's say $9.99 ?? I'm sorry but your policy is UNFAIR. And if GaGa truly wanted to give her fans the "treat" if an album in a more accessible way, she might as well leak her albums, and keep making money off tours if that's the case, but it is CLEARLY not the case, for it is obvious that the 1st week SALES is very important for GaGa and her team, and to make such a drastic and DESPERATE change is sad. This 0.99 cents album is totally ridiculous how a new artist with low budget is gonna compete with this kind of "politics" a new artist cant sell his album at 0.99 cents, this is basically so unfair to other artists that sold 1 million in a regular price And a sign of Billboard's "go with the flow"and inconsiderate arrangements. Both GaGa and Billboard will be remembered for this policy change, because it minimizes the efforts and 1st week sales of many other artists who have earned their legendary figures and 1st week debuts. Billboard is joining the rest of the corporate-driven industry, where money talks. It is not artists and untalented individuals who ruin art and music, it is policy changes and last second behind-the-scenes decisions like yours who reduce legends' and icons' status. The digital era is inevitible, and one must deal with it rationally, not in biased methods of business making. Billboard has always been a respectable chart, and has been losing the respect from critics and even artists. It's the fact that artists like Eminem, Usher, Shania Twain, 50 Cent, Norah Jones, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift and others actually WORK hard to sell a $12+ album to their fans which ends up breaking records and selling 1,000,000+ and in comes this desperate ass try from Gaga to sell her 99cent album just to break the record. Yes, Gaga's album may be some-what good, but it's the actually work we're talking about here and the fairness of it. Your only asking for all this hate yourselves. So don't complain when people attack you on Twitter. The industry is CORRUPT and it's all about Payola $$$. I guess the record industry isn't about quality anymore, but about how many records you can break by virtually smashing albums down America's throat. Ah well. The decline from first week to second will be another record that Gaga breaks... Music politics is all this is. The media, Billboard included, are all strapped in on the Gaga train and money or something that is of value for BB is obviously being exchanged. The $.99cent sale of this album is nothing more than a ploy from Team Gaga to get her to break records and join that 1+million first week debut list. That's all. It's ridiculous and desperate for a debut week. With this I wish Beyonce would do the same thing, she deserves it as well. So does Katy, Rihanna and so on. TRYING HARD desperately selling her album for .99cents. With that price most artists could venture into the 700k+-1+million stream. It's ridiculous and Billboard knows it. You guys are always playing music politics. Speaking about the situation with Britney's 5th studio album, Blackout. The Eagles had a choice. They chose to sell that album exclusively to a store that Billboard does not count AND has never counted for decades. They even willingly signed an agreement stating they would not be counted toward the regular Hot 200 album chart. So they change it last minute, for The Eagles? That is what you call unfair. That is what you call unprofessional.To change the rules of something that's been set for years and years and years, basically since day one of the chart starting in 1945 just because one band decided to not sell the album in a way where they would be counted, is not fair at all. They had a choice, they made that choice. You don't change the rules in the middle of a board game do you? Especially when the winner is about to be announced! PS: All companies that have distributors sell their products have contractual terms for the price floor in which their product can be sold at or terms that require negotiation for major promotional activities. This prevents the original companies from losing brand value. In a normal sales transaction, both Amazon and the record profit on a sale to a customer and in order for both sides to forego that profit, there has to be an agreement on either side. This means that Universal/Gaga is making a cut on the backside of the Cloud Service and a payment for the loss of revenue/price differential. Universal had to sign off on the promo plan and it likely included another check, on top of their normal cut, given the magnitude of the event. Not to mention Gaga was giving out FREE codes to people with Farmvillle to download the digital album as well when they came to her cd signing the other night. FANS OF MANY ARTISTS ARE SPREADING THIS LETTER EVERYHWERE. WE HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER CAREFULLY AND WILL HAVE A GREAT DECISION (not counting those Amazon 0.99$ sales) FOR FAIRNESS. THANKS & BEST REGARDS, -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.37.67.240

05/27 14:22, , 1F
但老實說我覺得Amazon這樣促銷也不是GAGA的錯吧orz
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05/27 14:23, , 2F
就不要到時候扣除這些0.99銷量之後還是超過100萬XDD
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05/27 14:27, , 3F
揪竟這風波到底會怎麼落幕呢
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05/27 14:28, , 4F
我覺得可以這樣啦 amazon賣出15張算累計一次 這樣感覺
05/27 14:28, 4F

05/27 14:28, , 5F
就比較公平了XDDDDDDD
05/27 14:28, 5F

05/27 14:30, , 6F
ㄟ馬松又不是傻瓜,賣一張賠一張一定有底限的啦
05/27 14:30, 6F

05/27 14:31, , 7F
他要賺的就是媒體曝光,已經達到目的
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05/27 14:32, , 8F
如果是這樣大家快去瘋狂下載,亞馬遜虧損幾億美金XD
05/27 14:32, 8F

05/27 14:33, , 9F
賣一張專輯損失12.87美金XD
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05/27 14:35, , 10F
為什麼要做這種落人口舌的事 GAGA的實力還需要做這些嗎?!
05/27 14:35, 10F

05/27 14:35, , 11F
錯都在amazon~
05/27 14:35, 11F

05/27 14:40, , 12F
這沒有對或錯,通路這麼做這是他的自由。卡卡和唱片公司
05/27 14:40, 12F

05/27 14:40, , 13F
身為商品供應者,絕對不可能發生如此款待單一通路的情況
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05/27 14:41, , 14F
否則其他通路怎麼做生意 ? 亞馬遜也不可能無限量下載
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05/27 14:41, , 15F
亞馬遜的數字出來了嗎 ? 依照市場規麼推估,我猜可能
05/27 14:41, 15F

05/27 14:42, , 16F
只有itune的 1/3甚至更低。
05/27 14:42, 16F

05/27 14:43, , 17F
而且亞馬遜做這個行銷一定也會和唱片公司討論,然後唱片
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05/27 14:44, , 18F
公司也一定會將這個消息讓其他通路知道,但一定有個限量
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05/27 14:44, , 19F
保證,唱片公司也不可能讓亞馬遜無限上賣(就算他想虧)
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05/27 14:53, , 20F
剛剛看BIBO的新聞,amazon第一天就賣了330K張...
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05/27 14:53, , 21F
然後iTunes賣了104K
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05/27 14:56, , 22F
真是大手筆(讚 !),廣告費五十萬美金
05/27 14:56, 22F

05/27 15:10, , 23F
個人覺得不是gaga的錯吧 哈
05/27 15:10, 23F

05/27 15:28, , 24F
根本不是gaga的錯 唱片公司該出面滅火了吧 而且就算
05/27 15:28, 24F

05/27 15:29, , 25F
amazon不做促銷 這張專輯也一定是今年首週最賣的阿
05/27 15:29, 25F

05/27 15:36, , 26F
唱片公司要怎麼滅火,他們無法決定別人要不要賠錢賣啊
05/27 15:36, 26F

05/27 15:36, , 27F
只要唱片公司提供給各下載通路的條件是相同的,就不關
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05/27 15:37, , 28F
他們的事了,亞馬遜想賠錢賣,唱片公司管不著吧...XD
05/27 15:37, 28F

05/27 15:39, , 29F
這就跟有個路人買了一百張然後丟到街上灑
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05/27 15:39, , 30F
唱片公司也不能阻止他啊XDD
05/27 15:39, 30F

05/27 15:40, , 31F
我是同意billboard要慎重考慮這個事件的影響
05/27 15:40, 31F

05/27 15:40, , 32F
因為Amazon搞不好不只會搞一個歌手
05/27 15:40, 32F

05/27 15:41, , 33F
可是我很不喜歡"攏系gaga細勒蕭婆欸陰謀啦"的語氣XDD
05/27 15:41, 33F

05/27 15:43, , 34F
跟Gaga本人無關 但銷售量應該還是不採計比較好
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05/27 15:47, , 35F
絕對是Amazon的問題 但是就是會影響到Gaga..
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05/27 15:48, , 36F
我也贊成不算@@ 沒必要讓這張專輯背這種無辜罪名=3=
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05/27 15:48, , 37F
即使扣掉amazon的通路目前回報的銷售也非常驚人
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05/27 15:51, , 38F

05/27 15:52, , 39F
這裡有兩篇,一篇是Amazon會損失多少錢在這個促銷上
05/27 15:52, 39F

05/27 15:53, , 40F
一篇是對於這個促銷活動影響銷量的看法~
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05/27 15:53, , 41F
Gaga這時一定在想:雖然我有爽到,但干我屁事?幹嘛扯到
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05/27 15:53, , 42F
我啊?Orz
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05/27 15:53, , 43F
其實這一切都是Amazon的問題,明明就贏不了iTunes,還害
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05/27 15:53, , 44F
了Gaga!
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05/27 15:54, , 45F
我希望不算 算了要是拿了冠軍又要被閒話...
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05/27 15:55, , 46F
說實話Amazon恢復原價之後 很多人一定又跑回iTunes @@
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05/27 15:55, , 47F
算了只是會多更多爭議 又很容易讓人說話
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05/27 15:55, , 48F
沒算拿冠軍很爽 沒算沒拿冠軍再加油 算下去拿不拿都被罵
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05/27 15:58, , 49F
Amazon已經成功的炒熱話題了XD
05/27 15:58, 49F

05/27 15:58, , 50F
不是冠不冠軍的問題吧 本來就會冠軍 只是銷量衝到哪兒已
05/27 15:58, 50F

05/27 15:59, , 51F
算了的話以後大家提到這張專輯的銷量都會記得有0.99的存在
05/27 15:59, 51F

05/27 15:59, , 52F
born this(0.99) way
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05/27 16:00, , 53F
寧願數字不要那麼恐怖也不要作落人口舌的事
05/27 16:00, 53F

05/27 16:00, , 54F
Nine This Way
05/27 16:00, 54F

05/27 16:18, , 55F
Amazon已經損失了兩百多萬美金~真有錢~~XD
05/27 16:18, 55F

05/27 16:21, , 56F
不過主筆似乎也認為亞馬遜這兩三百萬美金很值得
05/27 16:21, 56F

05/27 18:13, , 57F
雖然這樣真的有失公平但寫陳情信的人也太閒...
05/27 18:13, 57F

05/27 18:37, , 58F
不用寫信BB榜也會自己決定這件事
05/27 18:37, 58F

05/27 20:48, , 59F
應該是會算在銷售,因為並不是唱片公司自己削價,而是通
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05/27 20:49, , 60F
路自行吸收,就把它看成亞馬遜一家公司買了五十萬張吧XD
05/27 20:49, 60F

05/27 22:19, , 61F
所以很像是Amazon在消費Gaga!@@....................
05/27 22:19, 61F

05/28 23:05, , 62F
看來基本上真的是gaga被利用了,不過amazon也不算損失,畢竟
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05/28 23:06, , 63F
一個沒人知道的音樂銷售新網站,可以一天帶進超過30萬名新會
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05/28 23:06, , 64F
員,只花兩百萬算很值得了
05/28 23:06, 64F
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