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Re: [影音] 未發行曲I Am A Loser曝光

看板KingofPop (麥可傑克森 - Michael Jackson)作者losesoul01 (make a change)時間11年前 (2013/09/09 23:02)推噓1(1推 0噓 0→)

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試著翻譯一部份沒有很詳細的逐句翻也還沒翻完歡迎各位高手板友不吝指教修正在此感謝 (希望不要跟洪蘭一樣超譯太多嗚嗚) 也希望有熱心板友能接力完成謝謝 p.s.括弧()內為譯者所加非原文翻譯 ※ 引述《gigaer (小寶)》之銘言： : 之前在網路上只有一些片段的樣子 : 最近突然有了完整曲子，不過聽起來離完成還很遠很遠啊 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzaexzU3XE

: 關於這首我是魯蛇(喂) : 有些說法說是萬夫莫敵未收錄曲，但其實是在2003年做的 : 在tumblr上面看到的相關解析，好長看不完 : 全文 http://ppt.cc/NC~h : "The mystique that surrounded Michael Jackson’s unreleased song “I Am A : Loser” was finally put to rest today after a fan leaked the full track : online. However, although fans can now enjoy the track in all its glory, : there is still much confusion regarding the true origins of the song. 在有人將這首歌全取放上網路後，這首歌的真正來源仍有些不清楚之處 : Michael Jackson fans have long speculated that the track was written and : recorded in the late 90s – prior to the release of Jackson’s 2001 ‘ : Invincible’ album. However, this information has proven to be inaccurate. : “I Am A Loser” was first conceived more than a year after the release of ‘ : Invincible’, in January of 2003, shortly after wrapping up the last of a : series of interviews for Martin Bashir’s ill-fated “Living With Michael : Jackson” documentary. 粉絲長期認為這首歌是在90年後期, Invincible專輯發行前寫作及錄音的但其實是在2003年1月被創作就在巴屎爾的(抹黑扭曲)紀錄片Living With Michael Jackson之後 (抹黑扭曲為譯者所加原文形容為ill-fated不幸的) : Jackson and his long-time collaborator Brad Buxer, who is responsible for : contributions towards a plethora of tracks including “Who Is It” and “ : Stranger In Moscow”, were staying in adjoining Las Vegas hotel rooms at the : time while working on music together. MJ和他的長期合作者Brad Buxer 合作相當多首包括Who is it, Stranger In Moscow 當時和MJ住在拉斯維加斯飯店的隔鄰房間一同做音樂上的工作 : Buxer, who was going through a breakup at the time, was awake late one night. : Upset about the breakup, he was pacing around his room repeating, “I’m a : loser! I’m just a loser!” Buxer當時正經歷分手，在房間裡踱步並重複著 I’m a loser 我是個失敗者 : Before long Jackson, who could hear Buxer through the wall, knocked on his : door and came in and asked, “What’s the problem?” MJ隔著牆壁聽到，敲Buxer的門問: 怎麼了? : “Oh I’m a loser…” answered Buxer, before explaining his situation. : “Let’s write a song about it,” suggested Jackson. Buxer還沒回答他的處境，MJ建議: 我們寫首關於這情形的歌 : And so Jackson and Buxer got to work, co-writing and composing the track “I : Am A Loser” into the early hours of the morning. 因此MJ和Buxer一起寫詞譜曲 : “We had our typical recording setup,” explains the pair’s : engineer/producer, Michael Prince. “ProTools, keyboards, a microphone set up : with headphones – the whole thing. So it’s basically a mini recording : studio.” : “Brad was playing keys and Michael was doing a scratch vocal. It happened : very fast,” recalls Prince, who began working on the song soon after the : first scratch vocal had been laid down. "Brad(Buxer的名字)彈奏keyboard，麥可唱scratch vocal" (有沒有高人可以指點一下 scratch vocal是甚麼意思?) 製作人Michael Prince隨後加入這首歌的製作，他回憶道。 : “Michael did multiple performances to get a good demo down,” tells Prince. : “We worked on it further at the ranch (Neverland) and at other times in : other places, too. Michael likes to keep polishing things. He was always : asking for a new sound here or a new hi-hat there.” "MJ做了很多次的演唱來得到一個好的demo" "我們在Neverland和其他地方進一步製作它。MJ喜歡不斷使作品完美，他總是要求在這裡加一個新的聲音或在那裏加一個新的鈸聲" : The song is built around trademark Jackson/Buxer drum loops and beatbox : sounds in the vein of “Stranger in Moscow” and “Beautiful Girl”, and : backed by soothing synths and an angelic harp. Jackson tells Buxer’s true : story of a love lost with poignant lyrics; “I say hello/You say goodbye. I : reach to you/You don’t even try. I am a loser. I am a loser.” : Upon reviewing what was leaked today, Prince can confirm it is not the most : recent version of the track. : “I mean the leaked version is vocally complete, but you can tell it’s the : demo because after the second or third chorus you hear Michael go ‘Ahh’ : like that, because he was getting ready to sing a part and then he stopped,” : explains Prince. ”Nobody has edited that. He didn’t mean for that to be : left on the record. Just like on [the unreleased track] “Gloucestershire” – : Michael starts doing a little horn part with his voice, just so he wouldn’t : forget it – because it’s a scratch vocal track.” "流出的版本在vocal上已經完成，但可以分辨出是demo 因為在第二次獲第三次合唱後MJ唱‘Ahh’之類的因為他準備好唱一個部分，然後他停頓了 : “The version that leaked is pretty much the finished demo from before it : became ‘I Was The Loser’.” : “What you’re hearing is Michael singing and Brad playing. That truly is the : demo. Those vocals are untouched, un-tuned and unedited,” says Prince. : “He was happy with the original ‘I Am A Loser’ demo,” adds Prince. “But : before we played it for anybody else we had a long talk and Michael said, ‘I : don’t want be a loser. I don’t mind if I was the loser but I don’t want to : say I’m still a loser.’ So we changed that.” : “I Was The Loser” is the final version of the track. : Jackson did not record the whole song again when it changed from “I Am A : Loser” to “I Was The Loser”. He simply re-recorded that particular line, : while the musical composition remained exactly the same. : The recording of the “I was the loser” line took place in a makeshift : studio set up by Prince at Jackson’s Bel Air Hotel room in late 2008 – the : same period of time in which the King of Pop laid down additional vocals for : other pre-existing tracks including “Best of Joy” and “Hollywood Tonight”. : These, among many others, were tracks Jackson had on “to do” list at the : time of his death on June 25, 2009. A handwritten note detailing the titles : of 28 tracks Jackson had hoped to completed, including “The Loser” as : Jackson called it, was found beside his bed following his passing. See below: : JACKSON’S 2009 “TO DO” MUSIC LIST : http://ppt.cc/u-hF : “There are things that just stuck in his mind,” says Prince. “Sometimes he : writes new songs, and sometimes he wants to bring up something from the past : that he knows is an unpolished gem.” : “I remember we did a little work on ‘Scared Of The Moon’ for the ‘ : Invincible’ album, actually. And I remember Steve Porcaro joking, ‘Oh that : song again?’ It’s so funny because I’d never heard it before. But that’s : Michael’s way of doing things – he always revisited some of his favourite : stuff. He’d say, ‘Why didn’t we put this on our last album? Let’s listen : again. Can we make it any better?’ Sometimes it makes it on the album and : sometimes it doesn’t.” : Both “I Am A Loser” and “I Was The Loser” remain unreleased in an : official capacity to this day. ” -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 211.75.201.122 ※ 編輯: losesoul01 來自: 211.75.201.122 (09/09 23:16)