[心得] 20 years journey IMO

看板ONE_OK_ROCK作者 (vvmafwcx)時間1月前 (2024/12/22 16:29), 編輯推噓6(6028)
留言34則, 6人參與, 1年前最新討論串1/1
Let me share some honest thoughts: If they truly want to make a name for themselves overseas and gain recognition in the international market, there’s more to it than just excelling in conce rts. For instance, increasing their presence in INTERNATIONAL MAGAZINES and TV SHOWS is crucial. Their choice of mainstream pop music style isn’t the issue ; the challenge lies in establishing themselves as a band in this market and m aintaining long-term attention. To do so, they’ll need even more staying powe r compared to bands from Western countries. Because they come from Asia, many might project their understanding of Japan o r their love for anime culture onto them. However, as I see it, they were once known for their rebellious attitude in Japan’s rock music scene—an attitude that contrasts sharply with how most people perceive them now. They were neve r fond of being compared to Japan’s mainstream music; rather, they preferred to create the kind of music they truly wanted and pursue their own path. This is my take on their collaboration with Sonic. It’s not that there’s anything wrong with liking anime, but I’m still looking forward to seeing what their next collaboration with other anime characters will look like. Therefore, their frequency and choice of appearances in international media wi ll greatly influence the direction of their overseas market strategy and their ability to gain attention. The scariest shortcut is undoubtedly the MEDIA. I believe this was a crucial resource their previous label failed to provide, wh ich hindered their ability to establish a stronger foothold in the U.S. market . As a label representing an Asian band, they should have had better resources and knowledge to support them, rather than comparing them to bands under othe r labels and downplaying their uniqueness. Moreover, there might have been communication issues during the album producti on process. For example, members who are less fluent in English may not have b een able to fully showcase their talents in the production. This is why the ra w groove we heard in Deeper Deeper (a song written by Tomoya and Ryota) is som ething we rarely hear in their albums anymore—even though the live performanc es give a completely different auditory experience. From my understanding, anyone who listens to ONE OK ROCK likely has some level of appreciation for Japanese bands. In their history, it was undoubtedly the Japanese audience that brought them to the Budokan, which is why we can still buy that DVD today. Back then, their listeners must have also had some knowled ge of Japan’s entertainment scene to choose and support them, leading to thei r rise to the Yokohama Arena and becoming one of Japan’s most popular bands a t the time. Because of their hard work and talent, they kept breaking barriers, even with many senior bands ahead of them (e.g., Pay Money to My Pain, ELLEGARDEN). They managed to earn recognition from these pioneers in the music scene. This jour ney wasn’t just about expanding their market through overseas performances; i t proved that they aren’t just J-ROCK—they are ONE OK ROCK. Sometimes I wonder what “overseas” really means to them. Ten years ago, the music they made had already achieved international success, so I don’t unders tand why they didn’t continue making that kind of music. If “overseas” to t hem simply means collaborating with foreign artists, then in this day and age, everyone is essentially an international artist. I feel like this question is n’t something I could ask Taka—maybe asking Toru would make more sense. I ju st wanted to highlight that Toru’s role in music production is just as signif icant as Taka’s, but there are rarely opportunities to interview him, whether in Japanese or English. Considering Japanese TV programs, I think that in the past, when they appeared on shows like band-related variety programs or radio shows, it was always abo ut the interaction of the whole band. It wasn’t like now, where only Taka doe s all the explaining and speaking on programs. This is one of the reasons I be lieve the changes in the industry have silently influenced them. Well, the rea son I’m saying all this is because they’re about to establish their own LABE L in JAPAN, and all of this will likely become part of their plan. It’s a bra nd-new and completely different challenge for them. Plus, maybe their past approach of collaborating with many different people he lped them expand their market, but I think they now need a completely new dire ction in their production. Previously, they held the VS concert with My First Story at Tokyo Dome under the name of their independent label, 10969inc. I bel ieve this series of new projects will give us an entirely different experience compared to everything they’ve done with other companies and labels, the exc iting part is that all these experiences will be condensed into their brand-ne w venture. Naturally, we won’t have to question anymore whether they are stil l themselves. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 60.244.176.18 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/ONE_OK_ROCK/M.1734856150.A.A34.html

12/22 18:23, 1月前 , 1F
確實OOR在媒體的能見度真的沒很高,這真的需要改善
12/22 18:23, 1F

12/22 18:24, 1月前 , 2F
但很大一部分是TAKA也不太想上媒體
12/22 18:24, 2F

12/22 21:49, 1月前 , 3F
有種「引領音樂是絕對的主流沒錯」,但除了他們自己
12/22 21:49, 3F

12/22 21:50, 1月前 , 4F
的社群媒體之外,其實很難得知,或說認識更多的他
12/22 21:50, 4F

12/22 21:51, 1月前 , 5F
們的感覺
12/22 21:51, 5F

12/22 23:14, 1月前 , 6F
Taka不想上的話換Toru上咧(誤
12/22 23:14, 6F

12/23 14:38, 1月前 , 7F
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12/23 14:39, 1月前 , 8F
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12/23 15:30, 1月前 , 9F
大大這個info真沒看過 看來DC上都在自欺欺人
12/23 15:30, 9F

12/23 15:48, 1月前 , 10F
在推(X)上看過;話說RAD真是挺厲害的
12/23 15:48, 10F

12/23 18:34, 1月前 , 11F
會不會是因為前一張專輯有點掉粉
12/23 18:34, 11F

12/23 18:35, 1月前 , 12F
因為我身邊還真的有因為前一張掉粉,而且完全沒有
12/23 18:35, 12F

12/23 18:35, 1月前 , 13F
興趣聽Luxury Disease的朋友
12/23 18:35, 13F

12/24 03:02, 1月前 , 14F
樓上 我也有朋友是這樣 我自己也不是很喜歡EOTS那
12/24 03:02, 14F

12/24 03:03, 1月前 , 15F
張就是了
12/24 03:03, 15F

12/24 08:12, 1月前 , 16F
榜單上讓我感到很好奇的是 Radwimps 應該是有一段
12/24 08:12, 16F

12/24 08:13, 1月前 , 17F
時間沒有新專輯了,卻還有前十,是否是因為他們製作
12/24 08:13, 17F

12/24 08:14, 1月前 , 18F
了不少原聲帶的緣故(例如我常用天氣之子OST當工作
12/24 08:14, 18F

12/24 08:14, 1月前 , 19F
背景音樂)
12/24 08:14, 19F

12/24 12:12, 1月前 , 20F
掉出榜單後可以開始製作非主流作品了吧笑
12/24 12:12, 20F

12/26 01:19, 4周前 , 21F
剛好友看到yt做這個題目、似乎是印度貢獻不少RAD的
12/26 01:19, 21F

12/26 01:26, 4周前 , 22F
剛好有* 只是原因不明XD
12/26 01:26, 22F

12/26 19:04, 4周前 , 23F
這串是可以繼續討論的嗎?
12/26 19:04, 23F

12/26 19:05, 4周前 , 24F
前幾年SS他們上台的那個口罩爭議有人知道是甚麼狀況
12/26 19:05, 24F

12/26 19:06, 4周前 , 25F
嗎?(summer sonic
12/26 19:06, 25F

12/26 19:48, 4周前 , 26F
爭議?是說Taka會照樣煽動觀眾嗎
12/26 19:48, 26F

12/26 19:50, 4周前 , 27F
雖然禁止出聲但他演出的時候還是會叫大家唱啊喊的
12/26 19:50, 27F

12/26 19:57, 4周前 , 28F
不過他也有說大家不用喊、他只是想照正常表演XD
12/26 19:57, 28F

12/26 20:26, 4周前 , 29F
我也覺得是為了表演、日本國內的輿論好像很多...
12/26 20:26, 29F

12/26 20:26, 4周前 , 30F
這一定有影響到當時新專輯的宣傳吧
12/26 20:26, 30F

12/26 21:20, 4周前 , 31F
那他出來講政治應該也有XD
12/26 21:20, 31F

12/27 06:55, 4周前 , 32F
叛逆中年人xD
12/27 06:55, 32F

01/04 19:44, 1年前 , 33F
看到這篇被推波到別的地方、、
01/04 19:44, 33F

01/04 19:45, 1年前 , 34F
說明一下這個是跟OOR海外論壇一起討論出來的
01/04 19:45, 34F
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