[閒聊] Hybrid Theory製作人回憶Chester訪問-2
There are lines like that where if you don't perform it all-in,
they're not going to work, right?
有些歌詞就是這樣,如果你不把身心全投入,就達不到效果
Yeah. I mean, for a record producer he was just a dream come true.
He could go to that point that was, like, beyond -- it's just
crazy how hard he could go with such precision. And even when he
sings softly, the precision [was there]. So yeah, he was a super
special guy.
是啊,我想對製作人來說,他就是讓你美夢成真的人,他完完全全的投入所有
而最厲害的是,在那樣強烈的表達下,他仍可以很精準的演繹,而當他唱抒情慢歌時
仍有同樣的精準度,非常特別的人
What was so special about Chester's voice? How was it distinct
from others you've worked with?
Chester的歌聲有什麼特別的?和其他人有什麼差別
Not to take anything away from the guys or anything, but they
might have been looking for a different kind of singer. Then they
found this guy from Arizona, and he could go into the rock world
in such a way that maybe wasn't exactly their cup of tea. I think
that they wanted to be more like Incubus or something like that,
but once Chester got his voice down on tape it was so undeniable,
I was just like, "You guys, people are going to freak out over
this. This guy, there's nothing like this." It was pretty obvious.
I don't think I had to sell them very hard on it, and Chester
loved to sing like that.
我不是要貶低其他人,但我想他們本來是想要找別種歌手,卻找到了從亞利山納州來的
這個人,而他對於搖滾世界的演繹,可能跟其他人本來期望的不同,我覺得他們本來想要
像Incubas這樣風格的歌手,但當Chester把他的歌聲放了進來,一切都太完美了
我只對他們說,你知道所有人都會被嚇呆的,我想我並不用太努力說服他們,畢竟Chester
一直都愛這樣唱歌
What did you think about Hybrid Theory when it was finished?
當完成Hybrid Theory時,你當時的想法是
For me, the way my whole career and my little system works is I
just make sure that I tick every box. I need to know that the
songs are right from a lyrical point of view, that they're honest,
that they're not cheesy, that it's recorded properly, it sounds
good, it fits into a place where it can be marketed. But with this
thing, it had all that stuff, but it had other things too.
Honestly, I thought it was really good, I thought it was great
work, but I didn't know it was going to be that big. I worked on
Pearl Jam's [debut album] Ten, and I didn't know that that was
going to be that big. I just kind of try to do my best work, and
when you work super hard long hours and you've got to keep your
head on a swivel, you just kind of work, work, work, work, work
and then drop at the finish line.
對我來說,,我整個職業生涯都有一定的工作模式,那就是確定我嘗試了所有東西
我要確定歌詞和歌曲是符合的,還有要是真誠而不俗氣,要妥善的錄音,聽起來要好
而且可以找到它的賣點,而這張專輯包含了所有,我當時真的認為這張專輯很棒
但我從來不知道他會如此暢銷,我只是盡我所能做到最好,你就是要不斷的工作工作
到最後自然會抵達終點
After all that success, had things changed by the time you guys
started working on the second album?
如此成功的專輯後,錄製第二張專輯有什麼不同嗎
They were rock stars at that point -- how are they going to follow
that up? And really, I'm not sure they wanted to use me on their
second record; I'm not really sure why, but Chester and Tom
Whalley, who was at the time CEO of Warner Bros., they really
wanted me to do it. And I was very thankful to Chester for that.
And the guys, they went along with it. They might have been
talking to some other people, but that's their thing. When we went
in and did Meteora, it was such a fun, easy record to make,
because Tom Whalley was super supportive; he didn't have one
negative comment to make the whole time, he was just a positive
energy around the band, and Chester and Mike just continued to be
amazing.
他們當時已經成了搖滾明星了,他們當時要怎麼再創佳績?我其實不確定他們仍想找我
當第二張專輯的製作人,但Chester還有華納當時的CEO他們想要我繼續製作,我很感謝
Chester仍是選擇我,其他團員也順應答應讓我製作專輯,雖然他們當時有和其他人洽談
而美特拉是張很容易製作而且有趣的專輯,華納的CEO當時非常支持,都沒有下過任何負面
評論,而Chester和Mike仍舊很傑出
Was anything different about that project or recording process?
錄音過程中有什麼不一樣的嗎?
It was basically the same, I would say, but I think the
understanding and the sphere of this guy that's an outsider -- you
know, "I'm outside the group" -- there was a trust element that
was there on Meteora that maybe wasn't quite there [before]; at
times it was a bit contentious during the Hybrid Theory sessions.
But on the Meteora sessions, not so much, because if I asked them
to do stuff that was outside of their comfort zone, they were fine
with going there and trying to find those special moments. And
they did it again on that one too.
基本上是一樣的,不過多了更多彼此的理解和信任的元素,之前我比較像是外人
在Hybrid Theory錄製過程我們有過一些爭執,但在美特拉基本上就少多了
當我要求他們離開舒適圈,他們便會去找其他特別的東西
What memory now sticks out to you the most about what Chester was
like?
關於Chester你印象最深的是?
The thing that is so disturbing about this -- and granted, I
haven't been in touch with him in a long time -- he was a guy who
maybe had a few problems, but he would kind of talk about them.
"Oh, this and that. My wife is doing this. Oh, I've got to go do
this." Just normal stuff that we all do. And he liked to laugh, he
had an amazing sense of humor. On Meteora, he set up this little
ProTools rig out in the lounge and he would write these little
funny punk rock songs and record them and bring them in and play
them for us. But I mean, he just was a funny guy, it was awesome.
It's just, boy, such a sad, sad thing.
我很長一段時間沒跟他聯絡過了,他是有一些問題的人,但是他總會談起這些問題
像是我老婆又這樣那樣,我要這樣那樣,就像我們一般人會說的事情,他很愛笑
而且很有幽默感,在美特拉時期,他會在休息是寫一些搞笑的龐克搖滾歌曲
然後錄起來帶來播給我們聽,他就是一個很風趣的人,發生的一切太令人感傷了
What do you see as his legacy?
你怎麼看待他遺留下來的東西
His body of work. I think that they've touched so many people
around the globe, they've maintained this kind of... They didn't
go all the way there and sell out. They kept their brand really
simple and honest, and I think that it's really cool that all
these different cultures, all these people around the world, know
who Linkin Park is and they can sing a lot of their songs, even
though they don't speak English. I think that's such a cool thing.
他的創作,他們觸動了世界上很多的人,他們最終沒有出賣自己,他們一直將LP保有
簡單和誠實,而世界各種不同文化,不同地方的人都聽過Linkin Park,而且會唱他們的
歌曲,即使他們一點都不懂英文,我認爲這是最棒的一件事情
I've maybe had four or five times in the studio that I got goose
bumps, literally like shivers, and one of them was with Chester,
for sure. And oddly enough, one of them is Chris Cornell, when I
recorded Chris on the Temple of the Dog record.
我在錄音室大概只有四次和五次起了雞皮疙瘩,其中一個人就是Chester,而奇怪的是
另一個人是我製作Temple of the Dog樂團時的Chris Cornell
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